January 08, 2008

A tale of two Candidates

Ratcliffe has some video up of the Democratic event in Sun City - Georgetown last week. It features two of the Democratic candidate, Ray McMurrey and Rep. Rick Noriega. Go watch them as see what you think about them. My opinion has still not changed especially since McMurrey found it perfectly OK to waste some of the time he should be using to talk about himself to discuss 'party politics' and allude to Rick being the preferred candidate of the party leadership.

"This is not about who deserves the seat. This is not about who is connected to the party. This is not about the party bosses picking the next senator," McMurrey said.

William and Ray, how many times do you think I'll have to goddamn explain this before you pull your heads out of your goddamn asses and FUCKING LISTEN? The party leadership tried to get Rick out of the race when Watts was still in it. Myself and many others begged Rick to run and he finally made the decision even though some of the same leaders you deride were telling him not to run. Do you get it? There is no massive conspiracy... the netroots and the grassroots, the people for whom you claim to speak, asked REPRESENTATIVE RICK NORIEGA to run.

As for not giving you a chance, when did you announce your exploratory committee, Ray? In June? No, I would have remembered that. It was after Watts dropped out, wasn't it? If you were really serious about running, you need to start gathering support about 10 months out from the primary. So, what you're in effect asking for is a 'do-over' based on your lack of knowledge and skill? Not so much.

On the topic of issues, as we've discussed before, an issues page does not a candidate make. I would also say that you're probably closer on issues than you think. However, none of that will matter as you'll no doubt argue even the smallest difference.

Not to mention being completely irrational when it comes to troop withdrawal from Iraq. You and Richardson live in this fantasy world where no one will take potshots at the troops as they leave. Things have to gradual and they will take time.

What really pisses you off, Ray (or should) is that we all know more about the issues than you. And we're supporting another candidate.

Posted by mcblogger at January 8, 2008 10:49 AM

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This is absurd. You are completely misunderstanding what Ray is talking about. NO ONE is talking about what happened when Watts was in the race. The Democratic Party leadership is all trying to anoint Noriega NOW, without so much as a single debate, and THAT is the problem. And you think it's a problem that Ray brought up the fact that no one even wants to have a primary race? Not to mention that even a political neophyte such as yourself would know that a no-name candidate like Noriega needs all the exposure he can get right now, both from debating his primary opponents and from actually running in a competitive primary. The Noriega campaign is making a huge mistake by refusing to debate Ray - just another sign that Noriega considers this election a lost cause, and is only interested in raising his profile so that he can win some other election down the road. Why throw your support to someone who has thrown in the towel?

And while we're on the subject of the Sun City event, way to NOT EVEN MENTION all the huge blunders that Noriega made - still saying absolutely nothing about the issues, treating the moderator with disrespect and being incredibly arrogant in demanding more time because he's a five term state representative, and leaving the important decision of whether or not to debate his main competitor up to his campaign manager's daughter. Do you read all this stuff in the papers and just shrug it off? Do you read the papers at all? Or do you spend all your time in the lefty blogosphere echo chamber?

Posted by: Jeff Versteeg [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 9, 2008 01:25 AM

I have to agree in part with Jeff, you're going a little over the top here, McB.

As of this moment, I have yet to make up my mind between Noriega and McMurrey. When Hutchison was refusing to debate Radnofsky, we Dems were up in arms as well we should have been. I see no difference here. Refusing to take part in debates is inexcusable no matter the candidate, no matter the race.

Yes, McMurrey has some flaws, but you go after him with the sort of superfluous fury that would make Bill O'Reilly blush.

But I agree with you, "an issues page does not a candidate make". Having said that, do you think that Noriega should or should not add an issues page to his web site and speak about a broader range of issues on the trail?

Posted by: Brian Rhea [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2008 09:52 AM


I never said it was a bad idea to debate. However, it's going to depend on scheduling. Having been intimately involved in a statewide race in 2006, I can tell you that it's very tight.

On the subject of being 'anointed', it's just not true and the sooner you guys drop that, the better.

As for the event in Sun City, I talked to people were actually there. None of them could corroborate Selby's take on things.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2008 10:55 AM

Brian - Sure and I know it's coming. However, for me it's not as important as the body of the man's legislative work which has been excellent. To be honest, I don't think either of them are all that far apart on policy.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 10, 2008 10:58 AM

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