December 27, 2007

A joke welcomes another joke to the primary

Ray McMurrey is running for the Democratic nomination to be our candidate against Junior John Cornyn. McMurrey's a teacher and we hope he's good at that because he's a lousy candidate focused more on criticizing Rep. Rick Noriega than on actually campaigning for the nom. He's also an idiot for sending out a press release welcoming GENE 'THE SA SHITHEAD' KELLY to the race.

I guess no one told Ray that Gene is a recurring spoiler and last year caused a runoff with Barbara Radnofsky that required her to spend $1mln to beat him in a runoff. The man's death will be celebrated by hundreds of thousands of Democrats around Texas. Including Charles Soechting, who's making sense again, who writes in a letter to William Pate who runs McMurrey's campaign (via Carl Whitmarsh's list)...

Let me see if I get this right. A candidate for the Senate welcomes to the Democratic Primary someone who communicates with the press via messages in a potted plant (yes, that's right, a potted plant), someone who files and then does nothing to secure the nomination but causes other candidates to spend money to counteract the name ID associated with a famous dead dancer. Mr. Pate, anybody can run but the time to get serious about what is happening in this country is long past. Welcoming someone who has caused more problems than any four legged rodent could ever hope to is not the answer. The Democratic Party is inclusive, but inclusion in my book stops when the person doesn't want to be in the race for any reason---and that's where Gene Kelly fits in. As for Rick, he is tried and tested in many ways that of us have not. He is a good, decent and honest man and someone who could step right into the job that our current Senator has failed at.

For someone who calls himself 'the heart and soul of the Democratic Party', you'd think Ray would know all that. You'd also think he'd know that it's grassroots, not institutional, support that brought Noriega into the race. Every time you criticize him, you're stabbing the very people you claim to want on your side. In the eye.

As soon as you decide to really talk about issues and run a serious campaign, come on and talk to us Ray. Until then, take us off your retarded mailing list.

Posted by mcblogger at December 27, 2007 10:43 PM

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Charles Soechting never sent me that e-mail.

And anyone who actually read the full press release would have noticed that we immediately challenged Mr. Noriega and Mr. Kelly to put forth their policy ideas.

I'm starting to wonder who the joke really is.

As for the issues, check out Mr. McMurrey's site. Then check out Mr. Noriega's. We have far more policy positions on our site than Noriega has on his.

--William Pate

Posted by: Triangulation of Death [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 30, 2007 06:32 PM

Yeah, but Rick has a voting record and a history of doing the right thing. Your guy doesn't.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 31, 2007 11:32 AM

McBlogger, is this all you have against Ray McMurrey? That he sent a welcome letter to an unlikable candidate? This is more of a formality than anything else. As far as Ray attacking Rick Noriega, this is what anyone running in the democratic primary would do. At least he's challenging Noriega on the issues, not on the basis of a welcome letter.

You know what would be really useful to your readers? A post about where both Ray McMurrey and Rick Noriega stand on the biggest issues in this race - Iraq, healthcare, and campaign finance reform. It might be hard to find Rick Noriega's views on these positions, since none of them are mentioned anywhere on his website. Ray's are right there on his site for everyone to see, and if you bothered to contact him, I'm sure he would tell you even more about what he thinks. But that would be almost like journalism, and clearly, that's not what this blog is about. It's about making general statements like "Rick has a voting record and a history of doing the right thing" without supporting either one of those assertions. What is it you like so much about his voting record? How would it differ from the way Ray McMurrey has promised to vote? When exactly has he done the right thing? When he took money from Bob Perry, the notorious bankroller of the Swiftboat ads? When he recused himself from votes that would have benefited his former employer, thereby silencing the voice of all the people who voted to elect him to the lege? This is so typical of the blogosphere, a lot of yapping and no substance.

Posted by: Jeff Versteeg [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2008 12:37 PM

WOW. Ray has an issues page with nbo details. Neat. As for his welcome letter, I'm not about to give him any leeway on that. Anyone who has had ANYTHING to do with the party in the last 6 years knows who Kelly is.

I've talked to the Noriega campaign and I know they are working on getting all the issues consolidated into one place. What they are not doing is rushing to put one up like Ray did. So far, that's the only thing Ray's been able to hit on and to be honest, it's not all that impressive. It's mostly feel good rhetoric with little or no substance behind. He's going to subsidize alternative energy? Great. More corn based ethanol while we see food prices increase dramatically? Oh, and the repeal of the tax cut is priceless. Which specific tax cuts would he like repealed? What should Treasury do with the money?

While Ray has been sniping, Rick has been leading and working his ass off to raise money and garner earned media. Further, Rick has served with distinction in the Texas House and has a voting record to be proud of.

As for the Perry contributions and his voting record, do your own research (try the google function on the side bar... we've been through that ad nauseum). For starters, take a look at the vote on the Gay Marriage Ban Amendment. THAT WAS A GUTSY VOTE.

I am not a newspaper. This is my blog and I get to say what I WANT. Don't ever come here and upbraid me for not doing what you'd like me to do. I endorsed Noriega a long time ago and see no reason to change. The question is not why I haven't contacted McMurrey, it's why the hell hasn't he contacted me. I've helped run a statewide campaign and the first thing I did was work up the bloggers.

In point of fact, I think when that issues page goes up, you'll see that Rick and Ray aren't really all that different on positions. However, I'm certain they will be as to details and specifics.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2008 02:43 PM

This response does a lot to illustrate the difference between Ray McMurrey and Rick Noriega on the issues. When McBlogger talks to the Noriega campaign (probably not even to Rick himself) to ask them where they stand on the issues, what do they say? "We'll get back to you." When? Who knows. When I had lunch with Ray McMurrey himself today, most of the conversation revolved around where he stands on the issues. For example, Ray favors single payer national health care, a clean elections initiative both in Texas and nationwide, and a 6-8 month timetable for pulling out of Iraq, even if that would be more costly than a slower drawdown. No one, including Noriega supporters, has any idea where Noriega stands on these issues. And remember, Ray has been in the race for less than a month. Rick Noriega has been running for months now. Why the delay?

At the end of your response, when you say "in point of fact...," what you're actually expressing is an opinion - that Rick Noriega will eventually articulate a platform, and that it will be more detailed and specific than Ray McMurrey's. That couldn't possibly be a fact because Noriega's platform does not yet exist. In point of opinion, I would be very surprised to see that Ray and Rick are similar on the important issues, if and when Rick produces his positions.

In a prior post, I asked McBlogger which of Rick Noriega's votes he was impressed by. He listed only one vote, cast against putting the Texas Marriage Amendment on the ballot. And this was "gutsy?" Casting a vote in favor of equal rights for gays and lesbians is gutsy? That is absurd. Voting against a ridiculous piece of legislation based shamelessly on a republican wedge issue is the very LEAST we should expect from our elected representatives. Anyone who voted for that amendment, be it a legislator or a private citizen, is a bigot. Were there any other votes you were impressed by? Or just that one?

As far as Rick Noriega accepting money from Bob Perry goes, I understand that this story has already been covered. But there has been no resolution from Rick Noriega, which makes it relevant today. Did he support the Swift Boat ads in 2004? Why hasn't he given the money back? You wrote previously that everybody in Texas takes money from Bob Perry. Why? It's ok to take money from someone that you have described as a "scumbag" just because everyone else is doing it? And if everyone else was jumping off a bridge... Further, I understand your point about courting bipartisan support, but should that include getting a small yet politically significant donation from a right-winger who is an absolute pariah to democrats? This is exactly the sort of money game that Ray McMurrey has vowed not to play.

Finally, you ask why Ray McMurrey hasn't contacted you? He had been sending you press releases, until you, in an extremely juvenile and offensive way, asked him to take you off his "retarded" mailing list.

Posted by: Jeff Versteeg [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2008 04:38 PM

Really, do we have to do this?

I'm more impressed by someone who chooses to take the time to do something right than by someone who rushed to put something up as a gotcha.

As for votes, there's also Voter ID (which he voted against), Tuition Dereg (which he voted against) and the list goes on and on. As for that vote being gutsy, you're goddamn right that in the State of Texas in 2005 that was a gutsy vote. You're either naive or stupid if you don't see that. Further more, a bunch of good people were forced into voting for that bill, Republicans and Democrats, because it existed and the majority of the people in this state ARE bigoted toward the LGBT community. GET OVER IT.

I'm familiar with Democrats all over Texas. No one seems to have ever heard about Ray until he popped up as candidate for US Senate beating up on a guy who has been working his ass off in the Texas House. Not an impressive beginning. Oh, but he does have his issues page up. So, when you were having that lunch, did he speak to you about corn ethanol subsidies?

As for talking to the campaign, gimme a break. Rick has had a number of conference calls so many of us know what's going on. Sometimes I have the time to participate, usually I don't. To date, even BEFORE this post went live, I've never heard from Ray.

On the subject of the money, it's naive to even ask for him to return it. And frankly, why should he? He's not voted for Perry's issues. For you and you alone this is an issue. For me, it's irrelevant especially since NONE of the money in this campaign has come from Bob Perry. For Rick's part, he's never asked for money from Bob Perry and he's never turned money down. Smart candidates do that because it's hard as hell to raise money.

On the subject of the Swift Boat ads, Perry was an idiot for underwriting that. However, that wasn't what brought down Kerry. What brought down Kerry was his inept campaign. You're blaming the wrong person for 2004.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 2, 2008 10:33 PM

One last thing on the 'Bob Perry Gave Money To Rick' thing... Why don't you ask Kerry how he feels about it? He's trying to help Rick raise money.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 12:28 AM

I just want to clarify one thing:

McMurrey does not support subsidies for corn-based ethanol. Nowhere on his site does it state that. There are other alternative, renewable energy sources out there.

--WP

Posted by: Triangulation of Death [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 3, 2008 02:24 PM

That's the problem with rushing up an issues page... not enough specifics.

Posted by: mcblogger [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 4, 2008 12:29 AM

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