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March 31, 2007

Lame consultants, lame ideas and ignoring reality

The ever graceless Greg Wythe has an opinion on the Texas Senate race... to attack bloggers.

So why are Texas Democratic bloggers pitching such a heated fight on his behalf? Why shoot down another Democrat when nobody's announced for the contest in question?

Horseshit. There may be a few that have decided to support Noriega, but NONE are pitching a fight. You're trying, just like Kos did, to paint us all with one brush. Needless to say, it's a douchie thing to do.

2005 was a point in time when several leading bloggers (even not-so-leading ones such as myself), espoused the view that we should "run everywhere." I still maintain that view, for what it's worth. But now, instead of engaging in something productive, the Texas left-Blogosphere is engaging in what might best be labelled "Only Run Pre-Approved Candidates." You'd think they won something on a scale big enough to warrant the sort of ring-kissing they now demand. Last I checked, every statewide elected official is Republican. Such stature might be more becoming of a bit more teamwork. No matter how I crunch the numbers, our challenge as a party does not result from the overpopulation of Democrats.

I've said this privately in other forums, but I'll state it publically now: the leftwing Texas blogosphere has jumped the shark. That might be harmless enough if it weren't for the fact that they now see it as their mission to inflict damage on otherwise great Dems like Rick Noriega and Nick Lampson.

First off, no one in the Texas Netroots is going after Lampson, unless your referring to an honest assessment of him as a candidate. If that's the case, then I can't say much other than 'you're wrong' and I would offer as proof his 'victory' last fall which resulted more from legal maneuvering than his skill as a candidate. Oh, don't get me wrong... he's a better person than anyone the Republicans could have brought forth. Nevertheless, it's tough for someone like Nick to get elected in this day and age given the sophistication of the electorate. He comes across as lame. In person and in his ads. Maybe it's his team or maybe it's him. However, he doesn't get a pass either way for being a 'good guy'. You gotta be a 'good guy' AND electable. You and others who've been running and losing for years don't get it. Why not listen to others for a change and quit picking candidates that couldn't generate enough excitement to get a puppy to jump around.

As for any of us demanding that someone KISS OUR RING, you've got to be joking. This is like saying if the strategists running around offering money had just talked to us first we'd be OK with a Lampson Senate race and nothing could be further from the truth. I do have to admit that the top-down nature of this sucks ass, as does the intimidation. No candidate need be pre-approved by anyone. For example, some of my fellow losers bloggers have decided to support Rick Noriega. Some have decided to support Pete Gallego. I've not decided on anyone and have instead opted to wait until the session is over before giving any of this serious consideration unlike Greg who has thrown his heft behind Lampson apparently. Before you think too highly of Greg's skill as a candidate picker, keep in mind that he was one of the ones leading the charge against Bob Gammage last year during the primary. As a result of that primary, we got a guy as a gubernatorial candidate who couldn't hold the Democratic base in a four way race. So much for Greg and his pathetic opinion.

The only thing on which Texas Bloggers all agree is that we'll all do what we can on our own to remove Corpsyn from office. None of us are out to damage anyone, other than Corpsyn.

Posted by mcblogger at March 31, 2007 11:42 AM

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"First off, no one in the Texas Netroots is going after Lampson, unless your referring to an honest assessment of him as a candidate. If that's the case, then I can't say much other than 'you're wrong' and I would offer as proof his 'victory' last fall which resulted more from legal maneuvering than his skill as a candidate."

Amazing how you contradict yourself in the span of less than one paragraph. Thanks for proving my point. I was all set to highlight Annatopia's hit on the situation, but yours was much more appropriate for the point.

ref: http://texaskaos.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2980

Posted by: gregwythe at March 31, 2007 03:56 PM

Oh hell, Greg. Talking about his skills as a candidate (or lack thereof) isn't trashing him as a person.

I keep forgetting that any criticism of one of 'your candidates' is 'slamming' them. Quit whining, get over it and move on. Stop being a titty baby.

Posted by: mcblogger at March 31, 2007 04:31 PM

Greg, I have long thought you would benefit from a reading comprehension course.

Anna's post you reference doesn't even mention Lampson.

He's not even included in the "on notice" board.

Aren't you tired of playing by Gerstein rules-just say any shit and see what sticks?

Posted by: boadicea at March 31, 2007 04:38 PM

http://feettofire.com/node/124

One more example of Texas bloggers "not" attacking Nick Lampson. Notice Lyn's comment: "He agrees with me that Lampson is the wrong candidate for us." I wonder where she got that from? Your high estimation of Lampson, perhaps?

Secondly, to touch on Boadacia's parroting of Republican blogger talking points, let's review who needs reading comprehension here:

Mcblogger #1: "No one in the Texas Netroots is going after Lampson"

McBlogger #2: "Talking about his skills as a candidate (or lack thereof) isn't trashing him as a person."

No, but it IS "going after" ... which was your original point (one of two conflicting ones, that is).

You guys can flip flop on what it means to attack Democrats all you want. After all, it's not you who has to live with two good Houston-area Dems being dragged through the gutter, after all. Is it?

Posted by: gregwythe at March 31, 2007 04:56 PM

Republican bloggers think you need to learn to read, too?

Posted by: boadicea at March 31, 2007 05:14 PM

After all, we're in Central Texas where everything's just perfect, eh, Greg? Got news for you pal... we still have Republicans in our backyard that we're pretty focused on taking out.

As for contradicting myself, hardly. The problem is your paper thin skin and an inability to handle any criticism of a candidate you happen to like.

Again, what you call an 'attack' is honest criticism, not 'trashing' or 'going after someone'. When I go into take down, you'll damn well know it.

Last question, Greg, how much of your income comes directly or indirectly from Lampson? I don't expect you to answer but I gotta be honest... it's weak as fucking hell of you to hide behind 'you're being too nasty' argument instead of addressing Lampson's very real weaknesses as a candidate. WHICH HAPPENS TO BE ALL WE'VE DONE.

Go after the messenger and forget the message, right Greg?

Posted by: mcblogger at March 31, 2007 05:17 PM

Wow, you are a sensitive sort, for all your bullying bluster.

Just not wanting Nick Lampson as a candidate is sufficient to make you think "gutter".

I'll try to remember what a delicate, if opinionated, flower you are when you're trashing fellow bloggers or Dems next.

Posted by: boadicea at March 31, 2007 05:18 PM

Greg, I'm touched that you would quote me. I was so busy jumping the shark, I almost didn't notice.

As others have pointed out, saying someone is not the right candidate isn't bashing.

Saying that entire group of people have jumped the shark because they disagree with you, that's bashing. Not that I have a problem with that. Just make sure you can take it as good as you can give it.

Posted by: Lyn Wall at March 31, 2007 08:53 PM

Everywhere I go, people are questioning whether Lampson is the best candidate for Senate. McBlogger is not the only one who is not convinced. Most people just don't think it makes sense. What is everyone missing? Why are the money guys so convinced he can beat Cornyn?

The other sad thing is, what is the polling data that shows Lampson can't win again in 22? Disturbing.

Posted by: Boobilicious at March 31, 2007 09:34 PM

with all due respect to the liar greg, i took serious pains to not trash lampson and have no intention of doing so. and i challenge greg to go to texaskaos and find a single comment from any on our staff or commenters where we give lampson anything other than the respect he deserves. go ahead, go search around and try to find a comment where we say anything other than what a great fit he is for tx-22. find something where we say we wouldn't give him our full support in a re-election run.

you know what? you won't find it.

but i guess it's much more convenient for greg to cherry pick a few comments in a dkos thread and then use them to smear the every texas lefty blogger. how very gerstein-esque.

seriously, this is fucking ridiculous. greg, i know you wanted to sista-souljah us for a long time, and i guess you've done it now. you've proven that you're just another shady consultant, unwilling to disclose his own interests, and lying to his readers on behalf of the guys who cut your checks. way to go, dude.

i was really looking forward to working together with ALL the texas bloggers to take our cornyn. too bad we'll have to scratch one ally of the list now.

Posted by: annatopia at April 1, 2007 11:46 AM

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